The bad cartoonist


Give me a break….
March 4, 2008, 11:34 pm
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I got an email today from Jeff Koterba. He’s not the only cartoonist who has emailed me, but it just may have been the most ‘polite’ one I have received. I’ve posted it below, along with my response.

Unfortunately, most folks don’t realize that lifting artwork for use on a blog is actually copyright infringement. As much as I get a kick out of your blog, I don’t recall giving permission for you to use my work. If I’m mistaken, I apologize. But I’ll need you to provide documentation that you have permission, or you’ll have to remove my work from your site immediately. If you would like to use my work in the future, I will be happy to consider it on a case-by-case basis.

Many thanks,

Jeff Koterba

And my response.

Jeff,

According to the Fair Use doctrine of United States Copyright law (the same doctrine that covers your butt when you use Mickey Mouse or Mickey-d’s in a cartoon) copyrighted works can be reused without permission of the copyright holder for uses such as: scholarship, review, and parody.

For more info, just google ‘fair use’. It might be useful to you in your profession.

Nice try though.

Bad Cartoonist

I’m not so sure I deserved such a darn nice email but, whatever. I felt so warm and fuzzy after reading it that I couldn’t even bring myself to call him names in my response.

I am very surprised that cartoonists are not more aware of copyright law. Heck, we rip off copyrights all the time but, heaven forbid, someone posts a sub-par cartoon and makes some comments concerning one’s ability to draw or execute a decent joke and they want to call out the cavalry. This might be news to some of you but parody isn’t ours alone.

I think we’re all just a little sensitive. Sure, it’s ok to rip people to shreds day-in and day-out from behind our comfortable drawing desks. But as soon as someone else does it to us, we have to get our pantaloons in a bunch.

The fact of the matter is that there are too many cartoonists who are either uncreative, unable or just not trying hard enough. Instead of being oh-so-proud of ourselves for offending people I think we ought to be doing a better job at what we do. For all of those of you who have been sending me your cartoons asking me to critique you, let’s just look at another of Jeff’s recent work and learn a few more things that you can do to avoid ending up being the sludge on the bottom tier of a dying profession.

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First off, where’s the joke? I see a newspeg but there is nothing funny in this cartoon. Nothing surprising, nothing harsh, and no opinion Without an opinion you are not an editorial cartoonist. You are a just guy who draws bad and gets paid for it. If all cartoonists have a lineage, then Jeff’s is from Bazooka Joe rather than Thomas Nast. The caricature doesn’t do much for me but he does worse fairly consistently.
Bear with me and I’ll try my best to explain this cartoon to you. Kim Jong-il would be mad if one of his soldiers was listening to the Star-Spangled Banner on his iPod. Folks, I tried, but I just can’t make that funny.
I guess the only funny thing is that Jeff feels a need to protect this drivel.

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Koterba isn’t entirely without originality. His cartoon attacking my cartoon about Pat Tillman inspired me to draw an attack on his attack of my attack on Tillman.

Jeff practically defines meta.

Comment by Ted Rall

Yea, basically this whole blog is me ripping off you when you attacked him for his cartoon attacking you for your cartoon about Tillman.

Who says we aren’t original?

Comment by badcartoonist

yeah I’d want my toons removed from your site too… if they were as lame-o as they are

Comment by pooch

Yes you are allowed to post images if it is for review purposes. As long as it stays about the work and doesn’t become personal, eg, ’so and so is a jerk’ you’d be safe from libel suits.

Comment by Anthony

How about a link to these two cartoons, Ted.

Comment by Furious Diaper

Sorry, I’m too busy to track down links.

Comment by Ted Rall

What a profession we have. We eagerly embrace the holy grail of syndication, a system which greatly reduces the chances of new talent breaking into daily cartooning by Wal-Marting “big name” cartoonists to outlets which might otherwise take the risk of hiring their own local artist. I think that plays a role in keeping our numbers down.

Then some of us hide in the weeds and take pot shots at our fellow endangered species, the few who survive. Wonder if there’s a Bad Panda blog out there somewhere, run by a Panda who argues that the best way to increase their numbers is by getting rid of a bunch of them.

Maybe I’m just pissed because I’m not a good enough cartoonist to get syndicated, or well-known enough to get thumped by Bad Cartoonist. Tell you one thing for damn sure: In spite of myself I can’t resist reading this snarky blog.

Comment by Richard Crowson

You do realize that what you’re doing here isn’t parody. And that nearly every honest critique you give comes with a surfeit of mean spirited ad hominem bashing.

As much as anyone else I enjoy going through the AAEC’s daily posts and picking out the overused trope du jour. And as lazy as those cartoonists might have been, your attacks on their haircuts is just as lazy.

Comment by Philip Shade

more ascerby…

http://joshreads.com/

Comment by tony

oops sp!…make that acerbity

Comment by tony

Great job here! I truly envy the time you have on your hands to do all this research and courageously show us just how lame editorial cartoons and cartoonists are today. This is sorely needed.

It’s just a shame you’re not able to make a living as a satirist. But then, I guess if you had a life, you wouldn’t be able to provide us with this valuable service.

Comment by G.E. Talife

Please stop criticizing political cartoonists. They are just too sensitive to handle it.

Comment by Kevin Moore

Cartoonists need to sign their work to get paid, drawing what the editors want…nothing too controversial or upsetting as to lose advertising revenue. A stick figure drawing can convey a point. Your blog therapy is the most pathetic stab at humor…Instead of hypocrites the profession could use worthy critics. Once you’re off shift at BurgerBarn post a few of your “spectacular” signed cartoons.

Comment by Joe Engesser

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Why don’t you share some of your own editorial cartoons so that we can see what you consider better than the rest?

You do draw don’t you? Or do you write this blog because you can’t either?

Comment by Doubting Cartoonist

Real men blog anonymously.

Comment by toonamoona

Man, a little peer-review is always a welcomed thing; you whiny bitches need to suck it up and try to better.

Comment by Peer-Review Razor

try to BE better, I mean.

And had anyone noted my poor typing, I would not have wept (too much)

Comment by Peer-Review Razor

P-R, you should have capitalized the word try in your first sentence.

And you forgot a period in your last.

Comment by Grammar Mammar

Ok… stop whining and try to be better. Good idea. So how about some examples.. hell, even one example… of what’s considered “better”. Just what level of excellence should cartoonists be aspiring to reach? Or does everyone “suck”?

Comment by lapdog

Everyone sucks except Bad Cartoonist, of course. He’s a freakin’ genius!

Comment by lapdog

I like how whiny and misplaced the rebuttals are to The Bad Cartoonist. Seriously guys, work in film some day if you want to know what criticism feels like. Bad Cartoonist is writing you love letters in comparison.

Protip: whining about anonymity on the internet makes you look like my grandfather.

Comment by matt hyland

“Protip: whining about anonymity on the internet makes you look like my grandfather.”

Don’t suppose it ever occurred to you that your grandfather might know more than you.

Comment by oldtoon

“Protip: whining about anonymity on the internet makes you look like my grandfather.”

And if you’d been my grandson, I’d have smothered you in your crib.

HAH! Just kiddin’! C’mere boy and give your grandad a hug!

Comment by Uncle Grandpa

“Seriously guys, work in film some day if you want to know what criticism feels like. Bad Cartoonist is writing you love letters in comparison.

Protip: whining about anonymity on the internet makes you look like my grandfather.”

Maybe your grandfather could point out to you that film critics don’t make their criticisms anonymously, dumbass.

(this post intentionally made anonymously to make a point)

Comment by yourdad

“Maybe your grandfather could point out to you that film critics don’t make their criticisms anonymously, dumbass.”

Wow, take a deep breath. My comment referred to criticism, not the occupation of Film Critic. Perhaps I should have been more clear for you. I’m talking about peer to peer, employer to employee, criticism (you know, the kind that’s relevant to this discussion). The kind that determines whether someone gets to go to work the next day. The kind where they don’t give you the courtesy to respond to in writing, much less publicly. Just sayin’. This is nothing compared to film, and I don’t see anyone complaining.

“Don’t suppose it ever occurred to you that your grandfather might know more than you.”

What does my grandfather’s intelligence have to do with my statement in any way?

Why are people SO CONCERNED about anonymity? If a critic posts anonymously, who cares? This isn’t a court of law, it’s a public forum. Where in the handbook does it say we have the right to face an accuser?

Welcome to the 21st century, guys.

Comment by matt hyland

“Where in the handbook does it say we have the right to face an accuser?”

We’re not talking about rights, dumbass. It’s about ethics, which is something your grandfather may have known something about and you obviously don’t. What’s the matter, can’t take any criticism of your moronic post, you pussy? Stop your whining and take like an anonymous man. Fucking jackass.

Comment by yourdaddy

“What’s the matter, can’t take any criticism of your moronic post, you pussy? Stop your whining and take like an anonymous man. Fucking jackass.”

I offered a rebuttal, as is customary. I’m not sure how that translates to me not being able to “take it.” Your point has yet to be made, friend.

“We’re not talking about rights, dumbass. It’s about ethics, which is something your grandfather may have known something about and you obviously don’t.”

You guys seem to know my grandfather better than I did…. But what is unethical about anonymity, specifically?

Comment by matt hyland

Jesus, you really are fucking stupid, aren’t you? How many of these anonymous posts do I have to make before you get the point on how utterly useless anonymous criticism is? Do I have to spell it out for you?

Oh, and you offered a rebuttal? Well, guess what, so did a lot of other people to “bad cartoonist”, which you dismissed as whining. You offered nothing to begin with, so stop your whining.

Comment by yourdaddy

You can be as anonymous as you want, mate. That’s not what makes your posts useless.

I wasn’t aware you were spinning some kind of meta-commentary, though. That’s very impressive! It looked like a bunch of whining from here, and thus this viscious cycle continues. If only I were smart enough to get my way out of this conundrum…

Comment by matt hyland

Congrats BC, by the way. First post to break 30 comments! All it took was a pointless tangent between two people with too much time.

I think it was the fact that I brought up my grandpa. I had no idea he was such a smart and upstanding fellow.

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“All it took was a pointless tangent between two people with too much time.”

Is the point about anonymous “criticism”, otherwise known as being a troll, finally beginning to sink in? The genius of this blog is that BC has created a forum where he gets to be a troll and never worry about being kicked off for it.

Comment by yourdaddy

Pseudononymity is not anonymity. The trolls flaming over this need to use the internets for something besides porn and flame wars. Online dictionaries come to mind.

Comment by Marion Delgado

http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/trall/2004/trall040503.gif
Ted Rall’s Tillman cartoon

http://cagle.msnbc.com/news/blog/BLOGgifs/koterbaRall.gif
Koterba’s cartoon commenting on the Ted Rall cartoon

I couldn’t find the Ted’s cartoon making fun of cartoonists(Koterba) who comment on other cartoonist’s cartoons intead of news. It’s in the book America Gone Wild

Comment by david

I admit, I suck. It’s a great feeling though when I can get it right

Comment by cravensworld

Thanks for the two links, david. Gotta say Rall nailed the ugly truth there, and yeah he was kinda shocking. If you’re not outraged then you aren’t paying attention, etc.

Koterba. His was just boring. I haven’t seen enough of his stuff to judge whether he falls in the category of classically un-funny conservative cartoonists, but if that sample is typical, well..

Comment by Lascauxcaveman

What truth? Tillman was against the Iraq War, much to Ann Coulter’s chagrin. I’m sure his family just loves the cartoon bashing their boy. What’s next, an exposé of Cindy Sheehan’s kid?

Comment by Don't Buy It

matt – sorry, old chap. I was not in a good mood the day I made all those nasty points. carry on.

Comment by yourdaddy

Go to
http://www.post-gazstte.com/robrogers/default.asp?id=3
and then =24 and then =20. All look the same?

Comment by Just a guy

Ha-NO, they’re not the least bit the same.

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